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Was Stonebraker right?This is a discussion on Was Stonebraker right? within the Innovations in Data Management forums, part of the CORTEX Blogs category; Back in 2008 Stonebraker & DeWitt published a paper and associated blog post titled “MapReduce: A major step backwards”. Their key points being Map Reduce is: A giant step backward ... |
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![]() | Back in 2008 Stonebraker & DeWitt published a paper and associated blog post titled “MapReduce: A major step backwards”. Their key points being Map Reduce is: A giant step backward in the programming paradigm for large-scale data intensive applications A... Back in 2008 Stonebraker & DeWitt published a paper and associated blog post titled “MapReduce: A major step backwards”. *Their key points being Map Reduce is:
This turned out to be one of the most contentious postings in the DBMS community at the time drawing widespread criticism. *The “old men of DBMS” didn’t get that a database was not the solution for every problem and some problems just required a different type of mallet. *Even Vertica (who Stonebraker founded) seemed to distance themselves from the comments a little issuing a post affirming their commitment to Map/Reduce. * If you read through the comments of the original Stonebraker/DeWitt post and the follow on post you will see how vigorously people were defending it. The key example quoted when hailing the benefits of the Map/Reduce was that of the company which popularized it in the first place, Google. *Google used Map/Reduce to build its search indexes processing the immense volumes of data in batch fashion using MR jobs run across thousands of nodes. *No matter how the arguments for MR broke down the final word could always be – “Google does it” for which there wasn’t a great comeback. Now however things have changed. *It has been reported that Google has moved away from Map/Reduce for search indexing due to time constraints in processing updates to the index and instead has opted/reverted to a, wait for it, DBMS centric approach to the problem (Google*Caffeine). *Let me quickly point out that this DBMS is not a RDBMS but instead is their own BigTable distributed database (over GFS). So, some questions are begging to be asked. * Firstly, was Stonebraker and Dewitt right? *It is red faced time for those who came out and aggressively defended the Map/Reduce architecture? And secondly what impact does this have on the future of Map/Reduce now those responsible for its popularity seem to have migrated their key use case? *Is the proposition for Map/Reduce today still just as good now the Google don’t do it? *(Yes I am sure Google still use Map/Reduce extensively and this is a bit tongue in cheek. *But the primary quoted example relates to building the search index which is what, reportedly, has been moved away from MR). Finally, this no doubt will provide a shot in the arm for BigTable like open source implementations such as HBase and Cassandra. Get More from the original blog... |
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