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![]() | By Nick Farrell8 October 2008 German business software outfit, SAP said that it is suffering badly from the economic downturn. SAP said it saw a sudden drop in business at the end of September as global financial turmoil escalated. Henning Kagermann, the co-chief executive of the company, said market developments of the past several weeks have been dramatic and worrying to many businesses. He said that SAP was not immune from the economic and financial crisis that has hit the markets in the second half of September. The company expects software and software-related service revenues for the July-September period to be between US$2.66 billion to US$2.67 billion. This is an increase of more than 13 per cent from the third quarter of 2007 but well down on SAP's predictions. At least SAP can be happy that its rival Oracle also predicted software sales growth of only five per cent percent to 15 per cent in its current fiscal quarter. theinquirer.net (c) 2008 Incisive Media |
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| Administrator | It's good to see Gartner offering some commonsense to this (see the last paragraph). Quote:
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![]() | From Computerworld comes a different story about SAP. Perhaps the pain is self-inflicted? Enterprise software in 2009: Opportunities, risks Industry insiders share tips on getting the most out of enterprise software in 2009. Chris Kanaracus (IDG News Service) 23 December, 2008 Enterprise software is sure to remain a buyer's market during the economic downturn next year, but assuming you've got a budget, be careful to avoid boondoggles while in pursuit of a bargain, say analysts, consultants and IT executives. Pointers from industry insiders for enterprise software in 2009 include: Buy if you can, but don't go overboard "It's almost self-evident that software vendors right now want to close deals," said Frank Scavo, managing partner of Strativa, an IT consulting firm in Irvine, California. "Buyers are probably in the strongest position they've been in years. The balance of power has shifted considerably." One IT executive said the rocky economy is clearly providing him with a strategic advantage. "Vendors are doing everything they can to gain our business," said Mykolas Rambus, CIO of Forbes Media. "As far as technology spend, we're certainly making prudent cuts. But at the same time, we're plowing money into areas we think generate ROI." Those areas include e-commerce and data warehousing, he said. Software companies are willing to deal because it is "a matter of having a dollar in hand versus a dollar in the client's hand," said Eliot Arlo Colon, president of Miro Consulting, a Fords, New Jersey, company that advises Oracle customers on license purchasing. Colon is predicting that Oracle, seeking to cash in on its "shopping spree" of acquisitions over the past few years, will heavily discount licenses for some products, such as content management and BI (business intelligence), in 2009. But the company won't offer deeper discounts on products like its database, Colon said. "They just feel they have the stranglehold on the market." Whatever happens, just because something is cheap doesn't mean you need a lot of it, Scavo said. "You don't want to overbuy software that's just going to turn into shelfware. You'll just end up paying maintenance on it." Examine software maintenance costs SAP's decision in July to move all customers to a richer-featured but costlier software maintenance plan -- resulting in an outcry from some customers -- could have a lingering effect, Scavo said. "I think it's caused buyers in general to start paying more attention to maintenance fees." There's no clear sign that many more companies will follow the lead of companies like Rimini Street, which provide third-party maintenance at lower rates than vendors. But these companies are already making an impact, said technology purchasing consultant and bloggerVinnie Mirchandani. "The thing about third-party maintenance that people do not often realize is just its presence/threat forces a lot of discounting from the source vendor," he said via e-mail. A number of large outsourcers also provide maintenance "on the quiet" for customers, according to Mirchandani. "Overall, software maintenance pricing will be under even more pressure next year," he added. "Not just SAP, by the way. [It's] not surprising -- few markets, in tech or elsewhere sustain 90-percent-plus gross margins for more than a few years." ------------------------------------------------------------- The city of Flint, Michigan, signed a third-party maintenance contract with Rimini Street several years ago for its PeopleSoft human resources application, said database administrator Tom O'Brien. O'Brien so far has "never had a problem" with Rimini Street and the company's support staff is extremely responsive, he said. Customers who are considering third-party maintenance but skittish about the potential quality of service should ask the firm for a work sample that could be applied to a test system, according to O'Brien. In Flint's case, it was a tax update for PeopleSoft, he said. Rimini Street says customers who switch will save at least 50 percent off their current maintenance charges. Other third-party maintenance companies include netCustomer, which supports JD Edwards, PeopleSoft and Siebel. Venture carefully into SaaS contracts The growing maturity of SaaS (software as a service) applications may inspire more companies to consider products from the likes of Salesforce and NetSuite, hoping to gain the oft-vaunted cost savings of the delivery model. Forrester Research analyst Ray Wang predicts that SaaS vendors may trend toward offering month-to-month subscriptions. "Companies want to lower the barrier to entry and avoid the perception of lock-in. This also allows companies to explore strategies before they commit," he said via e-mail. Customers who do choose a SaaS product should make sure they have an "escape plan," Scavo said. For one thing, a customer can potentially maintain on-premises software themselves, eschewing vendor-provided maintenance, but this isn't feasible with a SaaS model, he said. Therefore, SaaS contracts should allow customers to move onto an on-premises version of the software, if one exists, or provide an easy way to extract user data and move it to another system, according to Scavo. "Prepare to get out before you get in," Scavo said. "I don't think customers think enough about that. It's kind of like a pre-nup. Nobody plans on getting a divorce, but if you're smart you're going to plan how to do this." ------------------------------------------------------------- Don't cut too much, if possible Peerless Clothing, a large tailored clothing manufacturer based in Montreal, has decided to hold off on two major projects -- replacing its warehouse management system, and an SAP upgrade -- said Joffrey Bienvenue, IS infrastructure and operations manager. Not every project has been frozen, "but the big ones for sure," Bienvenue said. "If it implies spending more money, most of the time it's on hold." While the economy is unquestionably taking a severe toll on IT budgets, businesses have to be careful about what to cut. "I think there's a danger of reacting in the other extreme, which is to cut initiatives that are going to be strategically important for the business," Strativa's Scavo said. In addition, a company's end users may not be as busy as usual, potentially making it easier to push through IT changes, he said. Bienvenue echoed this notion in part. "When the business is requesting a lot of projects and you're spending a lot of time on them, lots of stuff at the infrastructure level gets deferred," he said. "This situation can give the infrastructure team time to wrap up some things that were lingering." Rambus, of Forbes Media, said there is an opportunity -- and even a responsibility -- for IT executives to make sure technology supports core business needs in 2009. "If anything, this should be the year that alignment becomes a non-issue. Nothing in IT should happen without it directly impacting the business," he said. "The organizations and the executives to which IT reports are more focused than ever on reducing costs and getting positioned to proceed in the future. Anyone's who's not doing that? They're going to find they're extinct pretty fast." |
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![]() | I've just read in the NZ National Business Review that locally growth was very strong for SAP: Quote:
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| Member | Thanks for the last post JohnG. Here is something published recently with SAP's local CFO talking strategy: Quote:
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| Administrator | From Inside SAP Magazine: Oxygen thrives despite economic climate 12 Feb 2009 by: By Kate Morgan Oxygen has continued to report a ‘solid pipeline of SAP work opportunities’ despite the economic climate. Reported today, Oxygen Business Solutions states that although there has been a definite slowdown in some of the core sectors, primarily natural resources and manufacturing, Wayne Pohe, General Manager of Oxygen in New Zealand says, “We are still seeing demand for SAP projects despite this.” “While we would expect the economic climate to put the brakes on new assignments, companies are aware that both the New Zealand and Australian governments are preparing to inject money into infrastructure projects in order to keep the economy rolling, Pohe says. “Some large manufacturing and services companies realise that now is the time to go on the offensive and are embarking on system updates as well as business processes improvement in order to capitalise on the new work when it arrives.” New Zealand resources are being deployed based on the roll-out of the SAP template for L’Oréal New Zealand. This is subsequent to the success of the SAP upgrade for TVNZ which was rolled out on time and on budget. “Oxygen’s implementation of L’Oréal’s global SAP template for their Australian business was regarded as one of the most successful worldwide and we are now following that formula to streamline its processes and improve control over sales and distribution for its New Zealand businesses,” Pohe says. Oxygen in Australia has also engaged several new customers in 2009. Oxygen’s General Manager of Sales, Paul Kruger says, “The market is contracting in response to the current climate, but Oxygen remains engaged. We have recently won two new projects from the utility sector; an SAP upgrade for Macquarie Generation, Australia’s largest electricity generator, and a new SAP implementation is about to begin for LinkWater, the bulk water transport authority for Queensland.” This is furthered in a Oxygen’s statement released this morning, ‘Oxygen’s federal government work remains buoyant with a phase one SAP business case and future roadmap project underway for the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade in Canberra, as well as an SAP Business Intelligence project for the Bureau of Meteorology in Melbourne.’ |
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| Member | Fran Foo | March 03, 2009 ENTERPRISE software giant SAP has made less than 40 jobs redundant in Australia following a global directive to reduce employee numbers. SAP Australia spokesman Peter Sertori said affected workers were informed towards the end of last week. SAP employs 550 people in Australia and New Zealand, he said. "The action in Australia affected less than 40 people. "Most people left at the end of the week but there are few who are working on projects so there will be a notice period for them," Mr Sertori said. All lines of business were affected including SAP consulting and training. The move follows an announcement in late January that SAP would reduce its global workforce by 5.8 per cent or 3000 jobs to 48,500 workers. Mr Sertori said there were no immediate plans to announce more cuts but any decision would depend on how the economy fared. The company had to announce redundancies despite recording a stellar 2008 in Australia with a 72 per cent software licensing growth over the previous year. New wins in the past 18 months include a string of high-profile companies such as 7-11, Australia Post, Commonwealth Bank, Origin Energy and Victoria Police. Last year in the midst of its merger with Business Objects Australia, some employees were let go. Its managing director Rob Wells left the company towards the end of the year. The unit is now known as SAP Business Objects Australia and is run by Rajeev Mitroo. As reported in The Australian today, Mr Mitroo said that local redundancies for ex-Business Objects staff were in the single digits last year. |
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